When we discuss The Runner by David Samuels we will we will turn to specific examples from the book. Here are some questions we might consider. Those underlined and in bold would be good ones to study in preparation for the in-class essay.
1. Consider the book's title and the first paragraph of the narrative and note that James Hogue's story is not told in chronological order. Why do you think Samuels opened his book (with that first paragraph and) with that scene?
2. We think of liars as the ones telling the lie, but Samuels says Hogue preferred to let "other people do the talking" (4). Why would this be an important feature of his persona? Later, Samuels claims, "Hogue didn't care much for telling stories about himself" (36). What is beginning to emerge regarding Hogue or liars, at least from the point of view of Samuels?
3. David Eckley says that "[Hogue] was a sweetheart, but dangerous in his own way. . . .He just can't seem to come to reality" (5) Do you agree with Eckley or not?
4. Samuels says that "[Hogue] only fooled people who wanted to be fooled" (6). This sounds like something Ricky Jay might have said when he was speaking with Errol Morris. (Find where Jay says this.) How might Jay's remarks help us understand someone like Hogue? You may also want to see Samuels's remarks about Dr. Alaia as "a sucker" (24).
5. I am trying to find the reason that Samuels wrote The Runner. What is his purpose? See what Samuels says on page 9: "Hogue also did what all liars do, which is to diminish the universal store of truthfulness . . . and establish meaningful connections to others" (9). Do you think that this is the book's heart, or is it something else? Explain.
6. "Cindy's habit of telling tall tales is familiar," Samuels writes (13). Why does he tell us this?
7. Samuels wonders "Perhaps one reason that James Hogue has held my interest the past ten years is that I still can't figure out exactly what he was up to, at the same time as he reminded me strongly of myself." (14). Do you see a connection, or a similarity, between the two men? Explain.
8. Let's look at Hogue's family life. What was his relationship with his sister? What were his mother's habits? How do all of these things tell us about Hogue--if anything?
9. Let's stop and take some time with Chapter V. "The Escape Artist." I think of this as Samuels's "big idea" for the book. Do you think he is overreaching? Or does he hit the right note and successfully make his story about Hogue serve a larger purpose? Explain.
10.What is the theme of The Runner? Offer several examples from the book in support of your position.
11. Is The Runner a story of class consciousness? Would someone from the upper class engage in the same conduct as Hogue did? Or to look at this question from another angle: would Hogue have lived his life as he did--falsifying his academic record, his name, and stealing--if he was wealthy? Explain.
12. Was Hogue's greatest crime against himself or others? Or his harm was equal to both? Explain.
13. Samuels identifies with Hogue. (See question #7, above.) Does this cause him to lose his objectivity in telling Hogue's story? Or does it allow him to better explain who Hogue is?
14. Is The Runner principally a story about one man, that is, Hogue, or is it about the American characteristic of remaking or redefining or self-invention? Explain.
15. Come up with three questions of your own--not one raised above--about The Runner. Then, each group must come up with three questions that they will put on the board for further discussion.
16. Samuels claims, "In a meritocratic society, acceptance to a university like Princeton is not simply a validation of the person you were when you applied. Rather, it means that you are free to become someone new. In turn, the university will testify to the social legitimacy of your actions by putting its name on your diploma. Your troubled or unworthy old self can be safely discarded in favor of the aura conferred by the institution and by the collective achievements of its well-placed graduates around the globe. Later on, if you wish, you can reveal yourself as you were, and share the embarrassing details of your origins and upbringing." (128) Has Samuels made a successful argument in The Runner for this claim? Explain with specific examples from the book.
17. Do you trust Samuels reporting of Hogue's penchant to lie? Explain with specific examples from the book.
18. What does Errol Morris have to say about the nature of lying? Are his observations pertinent to the story of James Hogue? Explain with evidence from Morris's columns and The Runner.
And here's the trailer for Con Man, a film about Hogue. Maybe we should watch it. What do you think? (An earlier viewer, Gerardo of English 1C, spots news reader Kent Manahan. A tip of the hat to Gerardo for his careful observation.) 16. Samuels claims, "In a meritocratic society, acceptance to a university like Princeton is not simply a validation of the person you were when you applied. Rather, it means that you are free to become someone new. In turn, the university will testify to the social legitimacy of your actions by putting its name on your diploma. Your troubled or unworthy old self can be safely discarded in favor of the aura conferred by the institution and by the collective achievements of its well-placed graduates around the globe. Later on, if you wish, you can reveal yourself as you were, and share the embarrassing details of your origins and upbringing." (128) Has Samuels made a successful argument in The Runner for this claim? Explain with specific examples from the book.
17. Do you trust Samuels reporting of Hogue's penchant to lie? Explain with specific examples from the book.
18. What does Errol Morris have to say about the nature of lying? Are his observations pertinent to the story of James Hogue? Explain with evidence from Morris's columns and The Runner.
Can't leave out the opening credits for it:
Anyone find other stories like James Hogue's or Frank Abagnale, Jr.'s out there? Yes, I did. I have been following the Christian Karl "Clark Rockefeller" Gerhartsreiter story, a tale much darker than either Hogue's or Abagnale's. Gerhartsreiter, pictured below, lived in a guest house behind a large home in San Marino and convicted in August 2013 of murdering his landlord, and then burying the body in the backyard. The whereabouts of the victim's wife is unknown.
[***]1C STUDENTS: Read, Listen & Watch links marked with [***] re: CLARK ROCKEFELLER
"From left: Christian Gerhartsreiter, high-school student, late 70s; Christopher Chichester, U.S.C.-campus denizen, mid-80s; Christopher Crowe, Wall Street executive, late 80s or early 90s; Clark Rockefeller, divorcé and father, 2008. Left, from TZ Munich; second from right, courtesy of Cosgrove/Meurer Productions, Inc.; right, by Essdras M. Suarez/The Boston Globe." -- from Vanity Fair, January 2009
[***]NPR: 30 year Con from German Kid to Rockefeller Scion," July 10, 2011[Radio broadcast is about 10. Listen to the broadcast and read the page.]
Book Review: The Man in the Rockefeller Suit" by Mark Seal. Review by Denise Hamilton. Los Angeles Times, June 3, 2011
"The Man in the Rockefeller Suit" by Mark Seal. Vanity Fair, January 2009
[***]“Clark Rockefeller” Found Guilty: the Murder Verdict—and What Became of the Victim’s Wife by Mark Seal, Vanity Fair, April 12, 2013
"Rockefeller Impostor gets 27-to-life for San Marino Man's Murder," Los Angeles Times, August 15, 2013
[***]"Exclusive Video: Phony Rockefeller Speaks After Being Sentenced-to-27 Years to Life in Prison," Pasadena Star News, August 15, 2013[INTERVIEW is about 20 minutes. Watch the interview and read the article.]
If you know of other con artists, please post in comments section. From semesters past, students have learned that Hogue-like stories are not all that unusual.
Ivette Gonzalez kept her eyes on the news with Twitter. She got news of a story that she wanted us to see. I'm glad she did. Sounds like the illustrious James "The Runner" Hogue.
This time it is a basketball player. Here's the story:
22 year-old man posed as 16 year-old high school student [link broken]
Angela Liu found a similar story about a man who . . . well, just go to this link and find out. [link broken]
Look what Laura Noonan found: "A 33-year-old woman is charged with stealing her daughter's identity to attend high school and join the cheerleading team." Want to learn more? Click here.
Look what Laura Noonan found: "A 33-year-old woman is charged with stealing her daughter's identity to attend high school and join the cheerleading team." Want to learn more? Click here.
Mike Tuano wonders, "Now imagine if Hogue was a little more clever, and decided to use his smarts and con-artist specialty to lean towards a more 'financial' gain . . . . He would probably end up being like this guy [Victor Lustig]." Lustig sold the Eiffel Tower--twice. Yes, you read that right. Twice. To learn more go to Wikipedia's site on Lustig and Biography's profile of him.
In December 2014 I read about a teenager who said he made $72 million in stock trades. Not true, it turns out.
Anyone want to find more James Hogue wannabees or types or poseurs extraordinaires? Let the games begin. Post links in comments.
In December 2014 I read about a teenager who said he made $72 million in stock trades. Not true, it turns out.
Anyone want to find more James Hogue wannabees or types or poseurs extraordinaires? Let the games begin. Post links in comments.
Hello Professor!
ReplyDeleteThis weekend, i'm not quite sure what I should be reading. On Thursday you wrote to check the blog frequently for any changes to the schedule so now I'm confused as to what we should read. Yes, continue reading Samuels,but what else? Harvey? Weston?
Thank you! :D
-Marylou Aclan
English 1C TTH 7am-9am
Marylou,
ReplyDeleteWhatever it says on the schedule on the front page of the blog for Tuesday, that's what you should read. Here it is, as it appears on page 1:
T 3/22 Samuels (105-34); ARG Chpt. IV; Harvey Chpt. 2
This won't change. I might add some discussion questions or maybe the next assignment, but that's all.
--Christopher McCabe
The opening credits are quite intriguing...
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing Professor!
I'm hoping the rest of the movie is just as fun.
-Nicole Costales
English 1C TTH 7am-9:05am
I love the movie Catch Me If You Can so much! It is one of my top fav movies!! I watched this movie since I was young and that time my English was weaker than right now makes me cant really understand some part of the story like 'why this happen? or 'who is this character?' but I still like it. When think about this movie, 1st vision came to my mind was when Leonardo submerges tons of planes in the water tub so the sticker of the air line can come out easily..haha I like that part w/ no reasons :D
ReplyDeleteI should refresh my memory of this movie somehow.
Hello Professor, I had a question regarding the essay question. Am I restricted to choose between one or the other, conman or mental illness? Or am I able to say that he is both or that he is neither?
ReplyDeleteThank you!
-Marylou Aclan
English 1C
TTH 7a-9a
Hello Marylou,
ReplyDeleteIt could be one (conman), the other (mental illness), or both (a combination of each). Or none of the above. Make your own argument.
I look forward to seeing what you have to say.
--Christopher McCabe
This essay can be written in first person point of view Mr. McCabe?
ReplyDeleteCheri Le
English 1C
TTH 7a-9a
Cheri Le,
ReplyDeleteYes, you can use the first person. However, the assignment is not a personal narrative. a story about you. Keep your focus on Hogue--Hogue as portrayed by Samuels in The Runner.
--Christopher McCabe
Will we be revising our essays in class tomorrow with our peers? I ask because I feel like my draft is not so great and i could really use some feedback along with any suggestions that might help improve my paper.
ReplyDeleteClaudette Antuna
English 1C
I stand in the same place as Claudette. I need help with the format that you would like us to use and feedback on my draft which I do not feel good about whatsoever.
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Daisy and Claudette,
ReplyDeleteBring your draft with you to class this morning. Yes, today is the day that you will review your draft and others will review your draft, too.
That's why the draft, not the revision, is due today.
I hope you feel better.
--Christopher McCabe
Hi I just wanted to say that I found the Runner a little hard to understand, But watching the movie really helped.
ReplyDeleteThanks and See you tomorrow!
Dulce,
ReplyDeleteThanks for letting us know. We'll take time with it tomorrow, look at it closely and get a better sense of what is happening/happened to Mr. Jim Hogue.
Christopher McCabe
I agree with Dulce, watching the movie ties the scattered story line together. So thank you professor! I love the movie catch me if you can and this book because truly admire their courage to break the walls. In this aspect Hogue is my role model.
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Hey Professor.. Now imagine if Hogue was a little more clever, and decided to use his smarts and con-artist specialty to lean towards a more "financial" gain.. He would probably end up being like this guy.
ReplyDelete"And now for auction.. The Eiffel Tower! Starting bid 1 Euro.."
Read up on the con-artist who sold the Eiffel Tower. Twice..
"Victor Lustig"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Lustig
http://www.biography.com/people/victor-lustig-20657385
- Michael Tuano (Eng1C)
Mike,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the Lustig links. He's a classic!
--Christopher McCabe
After reading the books “Fair play” and “The runner” I have come up with this conclusion that people like James Hogue can work for FBI and CIA as a spy. Their ability of changing their character in different situations can help them to collect useful information for the organizations mentioned on the above. Also, their abilities such as playing a role or being multi-characters person can help them to recognize either the enemy tells the truth or plays a role and lies during a interview. Because telling lies and representing as a different person is in their nature.
ReplyDeleteI think the Indian film "3 Idiots" is a similar example to James Hogue, minus the habit of stealing. It's different from Hogue's story though. Here's the Wikipedia article if anyone wants to read (although watching the film would be MUCH more enjoyable): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Idiots
ReplyDeleteIn response to Carlos, I don't think the FBI or CIA would trust Hogue. He already has a record on him. His habit of lying and stealing doesn't sound like a record the FBI or CIA would want with their employees. Additionally, giving him undercover jobs and secret information about others may be dangerous instead of beneficial if they feel he isn't trustworthy.
Rainbow Sun
Why does the people who encounters and victimize by James Hogue do not display any resentment when they found out that they were lied to?
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Adilene Sanchez Mejia
Ninosca Corona
English 1C
What exactly happened to James Hogue early in his life that pushed to take comfort in the fake personas that he created? Why did he want "to escape from reality"? (16)
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Jose Q
Alice S
Tony H
English 1C 725 am
Why did Samuels decide to write the story on Hogue? Why didn't he chose another character/person for his writing?
ReplyDeleteMarlen, Minh, Catherine
Why do people like Clark Rockefeller and James Hogue target higher income communities?
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Alex M.
Gabby C.
Grace Y.
In a town so small like Telluride, how was it possible for Hogue to pull off his lies without them overlapping and/or getting caught. Hogue stole things from his neighbors and everyone around him, why didn't people start noticing or reporting these instances?
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Does James Hogue actually believe the lies he tells and the personas he fabricates, or is he consciously aware and of his various deceptions? (61)
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Adilene Sanchez Mejia
English 1C
Why did Hogue have such a strong liking to Christmas? Did the lie of Santa Clause represent his loss of innocence and a feeling of betrayal that pushed him to make the decisions become a fictional character?
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Alice
Jose
Nathan
What is your opinion of Princeton changing their acceptance criteria in which they accepted people for looks or parental alumni status?
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Alex M.
Gabby C.
Grace Y.
English 1c
Pg. 71 Samuels asked Hogue questions at the end of the letters he would write. He asked the question of fictional character or "the real you". Hogue said he didn't understand the question, why do u think he refused to answer?
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On pg 13 Hogue explains a bit of his childhood and his father's sudden outbursts of anger. Did his childhood and his father's personality have an effect on him becoming a con artist?
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Ismaiel Aly
Jessica Escobar
Ali Jakubcxyk
Wendy Hoang
William Purdy tells Samuels that Jim Hogue is "not a bad person he's damaged goods." Explain, using examples from the text, whether you agree or disagree with the idea that Jim Hogue is not a bad person. Why do you thi nk Purdy believes Hogue is "damaged goods"? Are Hogue's lies (and his ultimate dismissal of reality) the foundation for his damaged self? (33)
In your opinion, what makes Hogue's lies believable (considering factors such as his physical appearance, personality, etc)?
Judging from Hogue's words and actions, do you think that he is insane, sane, or both?
At one point in his life did he start lying? (34)
Group Questions
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Brandon Heruey
Asya Benham
Seth Franklin
Razmiy Garabet
1.) Do you think Hogue was chasing the ever sought after "American Dream"?
2.) Do you think Hogue's college application essays revealed anything about his true character? (80).
3.) What can you assume about Hogue based upon his relationships with others?
Stephanie Beltran
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Kemly Arandia
Marie Pennington
Josue Avalos
1. Jim Hogue turned his life into a story in order to escape from what? (16)
2. Under what name did Jim apply to Princeton? (81) Was it different from the one he applied to at Stanford University? [101] If so explain.
3. Do you think that on some level Hogue was ready to leave Telluride? This could explain how he would allow himself to be caught stealing the wood pile?
4. Why do you suppose Hogue decided to leave most of his belongings at home and then ditch whatever luggage he did bring with him at the water tower before leaving town?
5. Why was Hogue so eager to have a new identity? Why did he enjoy violating the trust people had in him? (31)
6. Why was Hogue unable to connect with people? Is this issue the result of his childhood? (58)
7. Who States "We become someone new every two or three years like a (blank)" ? And what do they say we are like? [Pg.78]
8. What is the name of the documentary that starred Houge in 2002, and what are Houges feelings about it? [Pg.61]
9. Houge tries to "game" his nephew on a particular academic subject that his nephew is rather well-versed in. What is that particular subject? [Pg.63]
10. What was said to be unorthodox about Hogue? [98]
Nick Klinger
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Saul Soto
Ernesto Hernandez
Albert Fuentes
1.What events and or issues lead Houge to take comfort in assuming other personas and crafting elaborate backgrounds in addition does he have control over this or is an impulse?
2.What does Purdy mean when he says "Mental illness in America is fantastic"?
3."His goal was not money or diamonds or 24- karat gold watches. He wanted to make other people's lives his own" (Samuels 51). Why do you think he wanted to do this?
4."Somebody could kill 80 people and not get this bullshit" (Samuels 53). What does Hogue think of his crime compared to a murderer?
5.Have you ever stolen anything? How have you felt during and after the theft?
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Sasha Binder
Nathan Eny
Kim Yan
1.Where does Hogue running from and where he is running to?
2. “When you let go, the world around you expands back to its normal size; you discover that the world is a lot bigger than you remembered it. You discovered that you are alone” (38). Does Samuels try to convince the readers that Hogue is doing the things he is doing because he is afraid of loneliness or Samuels himself is often tortured by loneliness?
3. “I really only get this type of application from ex-cons or people in prison”
(110). Why they are so many people at Princeton suspected Santana, which is James Hogue but they still accepted him?